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chocolatequeennk replied to your post “fiftysevenacademics replied to your post “chocolatequeennk replied to…”

I’m not sure what I love most about this post: the mention of Emmett’s hip action, or the gif that looks like the Doctor is getting a blow job.

fiftysevenacademics replied to your post “fiftysevenacademics replied to your post “chocolatequeennk replied to…”

It’s almost like he’s doing it actually thinking it makes him look sickly instead of smoking hot. Ha, DT! We know better.

BAHAHAHA I KNOW RIGHT?????? 

And I gotta think he’s not entirely innocent about it either, because he managed to make Alec seem fragile and needing to be wrapped in a blanket and taken home and fed soup just fine…..

rexalexander replied to your post “hardythehermitcrab replied to your post “IT JUST HIT ME THAT MY DASH…”

BC2 will be the death of me I’ve already started writing my will

chocolatequeennk replied to your post “hardythehermitcrab replied to your post “IT JUST HIT ME THAT MY DASH…”

Broadchurch 2 is gonna kill me dead. I love Emmett, but Alec really is the DT character I’d most like to “hang out” with. New Alec footage = “this is the story of how I died.”

Yep. My anxiety over BC2 and Alec is real, and at the same time is competing with all the FEEEEELS I have for him AND the issue that I want to strip his shirt off his lanky body and out from his skinny waist and A;LDKFJA;LSKDFJA; I AM SO NOT PREPARED

fiftysevenacademics replied to your post “chocolatequeennk replied to your post “IT JUST HIT ME THAT MY DASH IS…”

Have you noticed the little hip swivels? I just can’t handle it.

YES I HAVE! AND HE DOES IT ALL CASUAL LIKE AS THOUGH HE’S COMPLETELY INNOCENT THE JERK!

hardythehermitcrab replied to your post “IT JUST HIT ME THAT MY DASH IS GOING TO HAVE LUSTFUL EMMETT CARVER…”

BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT IT’S GONNA BE LIKE WHEN WE GET BROADCHURCH SEASON 2

chocolatequeennk replied to your post “IT JUST HIT ME THAT MY DASH IS GOING TO HAVE LUSTFUL EMMETT CARVER…”

I KNOW THIS IS THE GREATEST THING EVER. EMMETT AND THE SLOUCH-O-SEX. EMMETT CASUALLY LEANING WITH HIS HANDS ON HIS HIPS. EMMETT’S VOICE. ALLLLLLL THE FLAILING.

IT JUST HIT ME THAT MY DASH IS GOING TO HAVE LUSTFUL EMMETT CARVER FLAILINGS FOR THE NEXT SEVEN WEEKS AND THAT MAKES ME SO HAPPY YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW

primavega:

Gracepoint profile: Det. Emmett Carver

whovianfloozy:

"You know what happens around a murder? A whole industry crops up. Groupies and rubberneckers want a part of it."

fiftysevenacademics:

Yup, exactly. Scrolling through my DT tag last night, I came across several GP pic sets, and there’s one where he’s in his suit, hands on his hips, in a really casual stance, and I just cannot even.

I know exactly what you’re talking about. His posture, his movements, his gestures as Carver are just this understated whallop of hardcore sexy and I can’t even handle it.

tenthdoctorsrose:

would-you-like-a-jelly-baby:

You’re welcome

Thank you.  For the love of god…THANK YOU.

chocolatequeennk: I am so glad I'm not the only one who didn't like Ellie's line about Emmett's kids! I almost added that to my meta post about the scene, but it didn't really go with what I was saying. But yes, he WAS angry she'd used his daughter like that. And you know, she could have said it differently--"Would you let your kids get away with this?" It would have gotten the same point across without insulting a child/young adult she's never met. 

operakitten:

gallifreyshawkeye:

oodlyenough:

gallifreyshawkeye:

YES! THANK YOU! I mean, I’d be frustrated with him too if I was in her place, but there was more than one way to point out he was being an arse without using his children as targets and a scapegoat. And she did it without knowing anything about him or whatever kids he might have. She could have even said, “Do you have kids? ……. Is that what you teach them?” But no.

I could tell from the beginning that there was something decidedly different between Anna’s Ellie and Olivia’s Ellie, but I couldn’t put my finger on what it was until this last ep. Olivia’s Ellie was blunt and frustrated with Alec, but she wasn’t mean and genuinely cares about everyone around her. Anna’s Ellie has a streak of cold meanness.

What she knows about Emmett Carver is that’s he been incredibly rude to her and everyone around them, deliberately disregards her all the time even when she asks direct questions — he does it in this very exchange — and he has shown really limited compassion/empathy/sympathy for anything surrounding this case, which is the murder of a child. So she takes a swipe at his manners, which is really one of the milder things she could be chastising him about.

To say this line is all about her insulting his kid — a kid that at this point she doesn’t even know exists, because he did not answer her — and that it’s equivalent to her having met his kid and saying something like “wow your kid sucks” is not fair. The butt of this joke is Carver and his terrible manners. The point isn’t “your hypothetical kid sucks”, it’s “you’d be a terrible example because your manners are awful”.


Even if we grant that this line is maybe not the most tactful way Ellie could’ve communicated that point, to extrapolate that to saying she has a “streak of cold meanness” is quite a leap. The only person we’ve seen Ellie lose her patience with is Carver, who has been super rude to her pretty much nonstop since she met him. Carver, by comparison, has been much meaner than Ellie. Anna’s Ellie is less patient than Olivia’s Ellie, but Carver himself is much ruder and more difficult to deal with than Hardy was.

Lastly, I really don’t even believe Carver himself was all that offended by this exchange. He’s never minced words with anyone on the show before. Surely if he thought Ellie had crossed a line by asking that question or saying that statement, he’d’ve reprimanded her, probably harshly. He didn’t, presumably because he knows she’s right, his manners do suck.

You do have a point. And I’m not saying she’s a horrible person by any stretch. Carver is rude and condescending, and would be incredibly difficult to get along with in the professional setting we’ve seen him.

But there’s just something off about Anna’s Ellie, something inconsistent, and maybe the underhandedness of that particular exchange was my point of exasperation with her character. I know for a fact I’m still struggling to get a grasp on her character and feel totally blindsided by some of her responses compared to others. And maybe “streak of cold meanness” is a bit much, but so is skipping straight past calling out the person standing in front of you. And it wasn’t like a quick one-liner retort when he took the coffee cup, just a heated “Your kids’ manners must suck.” That, I would completely understand and have zero problem with (given Carver’s asshole-y-ness). No, she set up the exchange and the jab, and that’s why I used the descriptor I did.

And yes, he does realize she’s right, but I also firmly believe it actually did bother him a lot and that’s why he was so harsh and unyielding in their exchange at the end of the ep. 

But yeah, when it comes down to it I simply have a big problem with Anna’s/Gracepoint’s Ellie from a character consistency/believability standpoint.

she doesn’t know whether or not he has kids, so uh…just starting off with “your kids manners must suck” wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense. and a great deal of their professional interaction has been carver doing/saying things that ellie felt were underhanded, so even though I disagree with the thought that her comment was underhanded, I’m not gonna fault her for that. he has literally never said a kind word to her - from their first meeting when he tells her to get off the beach and she tells him she’s a cop, his response is “seriously?” and I know tumblr thought that was hilarious, but she sure didn’t. he makes digs at her about her professionalism, about her skills, about her goddamn empathy for the people she knows and loves. maybe she’s jabbing, but only because she managed to get the knife away from him for two seconds. 

stillhidden reblogged your post“I am so glad I’m not the only one who didn’t like Ellie’s line about Emmett’s kids! I almost added that to my meta post about the scene, but it didn’t really go with what I was saying. But yes, he WAS angry she’d used his daughter like that. And you know, she could have said it differently—“Would you let your kids get away with this?” It would have gotten the same point across without insulting a child/young adult she’s never met.”

#have to agree with oodlyenough on this one  #i don’t think ellie has a mean bone in her body  #we can debate whether her choice of words was unfortunate or not  #but her frustration with carver is not out of line  #and given his behavior toward her and pretty much anyone else  #her frustration is warranted  #ellie miller  #this ellie miller is more abrasive about her frustration with her new boss  #but she is hardly mean  #in fact  #given how much more abrasive emmett carver is than alec hardy ever was  #this ellie’s reactions appear to me rather on par  #she needs to be tougher with him  #or carver will walk all over her if she isn’t 

hmmmm, maybe I’m coming at this from having been in the field and around the profession (genuine self-analysis btw, no sarcasm meant). Carver is rude, obnoxious, condescending, and harsh, yes. But Ellie’s professional affect is horrible, and I mean this when comparing it to a believable portrayal of someone who has gone through the career path to be a detective even taking into account how well she knew Danny and his family. I keep watching her professional interactions, and she keeps coming across as someone who might not have even gone to police academy. And I’m not sure at this point whether it’s the character or Anna Gunn’s portrayal. If it really is her character, I totally get Carver questioning her competency even though his method of calling her out needs some serious adjustment.

I dunno, I feel like her character is all over the map - believable as a mom and friend, sometimes believable as a cop and other times not even remotely close - and I have a feeling my own frustration at the inconsistency is influencing my perspective on this particular scene.

general fyi…

I do not take any meta discussions personally, and actually really enjoy genuinely discussing meta of any sort (character, the science of an SF setting, etc) even if you wildly disagree with me. Analysis is just straight-up fun for me, and I love finding out other people’s perspectives and takes on the exact same thing. Discussing it hones my own meta, and it’s waaaaay more enjoyable than memorizing the functional groups and structures of the 23 main amino acids ;) So also please know, that if I disagree with your meta, neither do I mean it in any sort of personal way either :)

chocolatequeennk: I am so glad I'm not the only one who didn't like Ellie's line about Emmett's kids! I almost added that to my meta post about the scene, but it didn't really go with what I was saying. But yes, he WAS angry she'd used his daughter like that. And you know, she could have said it differently--"Would you let your kids get away with this?" It would have gotten the same point across without insulting a child/young adult she's never met. 

oodlyenough:

gallifreyshawkeye:

YES! THANK YOU! I mean, I’d be frustrated with him too if I was in her place, but there was more than one way to point out he was being an arse without using his children as targets and a scapegoat. And she did it without knowing anything about him or whatever kids he might have. She could have even said, “Do you have kids? ……. Is that what you teach them?” But no.

I could tell from the beginning that there was something decidedly different between Anna’s Ellie and Olivia’s Ellie, but I couldn’t put my finger on what it was until this last ep. Olivia’s Ellie was blunt and frustrated with Alec, but she wasn’t mean and genuinely cares about everyone around her. Anna’s Ellie has a streak of cold meanness.

What she knows about Emmett Carver is that’s he been incredibly rude to her and everyone around them, deliberately disregards her all the time even when she asks direct questions — he does it in this very exchange — and he has shown really limited compassion/empathy/sympathy for anything surrounding this case, which is the murder of a child. So she takes a swipe at his manners, which is really one of the milder things she could be chastising him about.

To say this line is all about her insulting his kid — a kid that at this point she doesn’t even know exists, because he did not answer her — and that it’s equivalent to her having met his kid and saying something like “wow your kid sucks” is not fair. The butt of this joke is Carver and his terrible manners. The point isn’t “your hypothetical kid sucks”, it’s “you’d be a terrible example because your manners are awful”.


Even if we grant that this line is maybe not the most tactful way Ellie could’ve communicated that point, to extrapolate that to saying she has a “streak of cold meanness” is quite a leap. The only person we’ve seen Ellie lose her patience with is Carver, who has been super rude to her pretty much nonstop since she met him. Carver, by comparison, has been much meaner than Ellie. Anna’s Ellie is less patient than Olivia’s Ellie, but Carver himself is much ruder and more difficult to deal with than Hardy was.

Lastly, I really don’t even believe Carver himself was all that offended by this exchange. He’s never minced words with anyone on the show before. Surely if he thought Ellie had crossed a line by asking that question or saying that statement, he’d’ve reprimanded her, probably harshly. He didn’t, presumably because he knows she’s right, his manners do suck.

You do have a point. And I’m not saying she’s a horrible person by any stretch. Carver is rude and condescending, and would be incredibly difficult to get along with in the professional setting we’ve seen him.

But there’s just something off about Anna’s Ellie, something inconsistent, and maybe the underhandedness of that particular exchange was my point of exasperation with her character. I know for a fact I’m still struggling to get a grasp on her character and feel totally blindsided by some of her responses compared to others. And maybe “streak of cold meanness” is a bit much, but so is skipping straight past calling out the person standing in front of you. And it wasn’t like a quick one-liner retort when he took the coffee cup, just a heated “Your kids’ manners must suck.” That, I would completely understand and have zero problem with (given Carver’s asshole-y-ness). No, she set up the exchange and the jab, and that’s why I used the descriptor I did.

And yes, he does realize she’s right, but I also firmly believe it actually did bother him a lot and that’s why he was so harsh and unyielding in their exchange at the end of the ep. 

But yeah, when it comes down to it I simply have a big problem with Anna’s/Gracepoint’s Ellie from a character consistency/believability standpoint.

chocolatequeennk: I am so glad I'm not the only one who didn't like Ellie's line about Emmett's kids! I almost added that to my meta post about the scene, but it didn't really go with what I was saying. But yes, he WAS angry she'd used his daughter like that. And you know, she could have said it differently--"Would you let your kids get away with this?" It would have gotten the same point across without insulting a child/young adult she's never met. 

YES! THANK YOU! I mean, I’d be frustrated with him too if I was in her place, but there was more than one way to point out he was being an arse without using his children as targets and a scapegoat. And she did it without knowing anything about him or whatever kids he might have. She could have even said, “Do you have kids? ……. Is that what you teach them?” But no.

I could tell from the beginning that there was something decidedly different between Anna’s Ellie and Olivia’s Ellie, but I couldn’t put my finger on what it was until this last ep. Olivia’s Ellie was blunt and frustrated with Alec, but she wasn’t mean and genuinely cares about everyone around her. Anna’s Ellie has a streak of cold meanness.